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-- 作者: axle
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/02 03:34pm

以動字測, 有否下屬想辭職?

先謝!


-- 作者: 心易先天數
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/02 03:49pm


目前來看確實有跡象.你應該去察察原因在哪


-- 作者: 嘉人
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/02 05:06pm

心易大哥^_^
还是一样的热心~~~
呵呵,不喜欢看到改变的事情,这里一切照旧,开心呀:)))


-- 作者: axle
-- 發表時間: 2005/07/16 04:25am

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]心易先天數[/u]在 [i]2005/06/02 03:49pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
目前來看確實有跡象.你應該去察察原因在哪
[/quote]

Dear 心易,

As feedback to you and as a thanks, one of my team members would like to leave.  But after discussion with her she agreed to stay.

Thanks a lot again for telling this and your accurate prediction!  :em39:

Cheers


-- 作者: axle
-- 發表時間: 2005/07/17 00:48am

好境不常, 今天再有下屬辭職........

頭痛,頭痛,頭痛.... :em14:  :em14:  :em14:


-- 作者: rainbow
-- 發表時間: 2005/07/17 07:30am

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]axle[/u]在 [i]2005/07/17 00:48am[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
好境不常, 今天再有下屬辭職........
頭痛,頭痛,頭痛....
[/quote]

<pre>哎喲!    你提及職場辭職問題, 我插話了. 去年, 我的公司有大約 90%的人辭職了.

坦白地說, 美國職業諮詢公司調查,  多數人辭職的 [ 真正真正 ] 理由/ 原因 其實不是薪資問題,  真正理由是:  無法忍受 壞老闆 (bad bosses),

有沒有
(1) 強迫下屬 7-Eleven 加班?  :em04:
(2) 無人情味的對待下屬 (例如,下屬有家庭緊急狀況 (family emergency) 不讓下屬缺席 (take a leave of absence) 或休假處理家庭問題?   :em42:
(3) 在金錢上吝嗇,小氣下屬? :em14:    
(4) 不訓練,培養員工, 使他們感覺缺少機會, 缺少成長, 發展的前途? :em46:

>>>>> 我的公司犯了這些 "令下屬討厭的" 罪行, 因此, 去年, 90%的人辭職了.

[size=4] [b] axle, 真的需要調查 下屬辭職的真正原因是甚麼?[/b] [/size]


-- 作者: axle
-- 發表時間: 2005/07/17 08:21am

[這篇文章最後由axle在 2005/07/17 08:24am 第 1 次編輯]

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]rainbow[/u]在 [i]2005/07/16 07:30pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
<pre>哎喲!    你提及職場辭職問題, 我插話了. 去年, 我的公司有大約 90%的人辭職了.
坦白地說, 美國職業諮詢公司調查,  多數人辭職的 理由/ 原因 其實不是薪資問題,  真正理由是:  無法忍受 壞老闆 (bad  ...
[/quote]

Thanks for your reminder.   :em06:   Actually, I have also thought about it, whether there are things that I overlooked...

But the actual reason is that, they are not properly rewarded for the work they performed, while in some other area of the business there are people rewarded more for less work and poor performance.  Thus, it's not the actual $$$ they are earning, but the "fairness" & " equality" of the reward system.

Why am I so sure about this??  People like the atmosphere of my team because some leavers returned to my team, some other department's staff also requested to join us.  Also, my colleagues did complain about the fairness issue -  and most importantly I once wanted to resign because of this reward system, too!   :em04:


-- 作者: Agate
-- 發表時間: 2005/07/17 00:39pm

:em03: 原來做上級都都不是很好受~ 要煩這麼多...


-- 作者: rainbow
-- 發表時間: 2005/07/18 09:56am

[這篇文章最後由rainbow在 2005/07/17 10:00pm 第 1 次編輯]

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]axle[/u]在 [i]2005/07/17 08:21am[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
But the actual reason is that, they are not properly rewarded for the work they performed, while in some other area of the business there are people rewarded more for less work and poor performance.  Thus, it's not the actual $$$ they are earning, but the "fairness" & " equality" of the reward system.
[/quote]

<pre>axle,

今天, 我讀 劉墉 的書.  你必須 speak up, 為你和你的下屬爭取公平待遇.

劉墉:  [ 我不是教你詐(4) - 第四本 ] -- " 諸葛亮出馬 " 這一章. 你到書店查看這本書.

哇! 讀完 " 諸葛亮出馬 " 這一章, 我領悟到 越做馴服的綿羊, 他們越是虐待你。

只有 會哭的孩子得到糖果 是真的.

Did they give you more money when you notified them that you were resigning?  Did your staff get more money when she recently resigned?  Did she decide to stay because she receives more money now?

If you don't fight for yourself and for your subordinates, you won't get respect or loyalty from them.  It doesn't pay to be submissive.  Your staff will only see you as a lame duck boss.  


-- 作者: axle
-- 發表時間: 2005/07/18 02:00pm

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]rainbow[/u]在 [i]2005/07/17 09:56pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
<pre>axle,
今天, 我讀 劉墉 的書.  你必須 speak up, 為你和你的下屬爭取公平待遇.
劉墉:   -- " 諸葛亮出馬 " 這一章. 你到書店查看這本書.
哇! 讀完 " 諸葛亮出馬 " 這一章, 我領 ...
[/quote]

Thanks for your sharing - I really mean this.

As you mentioned, it doesn't pay to be submissive.  Yet it's a rather difficult situation because the department is new and there's no reference point to make even in the market.  I've fought for plan in package revision at end of this year but just unfortunately some of my team members have run out of patience already...

I try to avoid giving them an increase after their resignation is submitted - otherwise it would become a precedent where the management lose control.  The situation is a bit complicated to handle.

However, the underlying problem of reward system must be fixed asap.  Frankly, if the business chose not to reward the right people, I would not keep them here as I also want them to have a good future.  And if it were the case, I would be leaving very soon as well - by then they are too late to regret.


-- 作者: rainbow
-- 發表時間: 2005/07/19 11:14am

[這篇文章最後由rainbow在 2005/07/18 11:21pm 第 2 次編輯]

<pre>axle

不用客氣.

你意指, 你的公司想要一個新的部門很快 break even, 或甚至賺錢? 如果是這樣,相當不切實際.    

why don't you 請教 心易大大 是否應該轉工作?  

Anyway, 我也有我自己的工作問題。  我能夠或多或少感同身受 --  去年,一大群人不斷辭職.  今年也是.  

我常抱怨 被虐待加班, 嘿!  嘿!  我絕對不是 馴服的綿羊, 我不知道他們是否擔心更多人辭職, 他們給我 7% interim raise, 我很驚奇. 今年較晚時候, 有一次 annual raise 我也有資格再加薪.  但是沒有很高的期望, 我認為 7% 是預支數額.

無論怎麼,  真的是 "會哭的孩子有糖果吃."      不抱怨 = 被虐待   </pre>


-- 作者: 楊救貧
-- 發表時間: 2005/07/20 00:32am

動;重力,壓力太大,下屬受不了.


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