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-- 作者: 緣來自有方
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/06 03:22pm

[算]字測

近日不知為何愈來愈多要學的軟硬件,新程式或新課程,但我自知我一直番1在港根本沒有英語練習的機會,我已經多多留意外語台,多看英文書了~而我一直上那些training都全是外國人授課的,對我來說真的有點困難,我想問我應否完成頭一年碩士課程後就到外國跟我表哥生活一陣子來improve我的英文?


-- 作者: 心易先天數
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/06 08:55pm


英文在基礎.搬去與表哥住.可以學日常用與沒錯.但是與學業上的專業術語還是不同.所以你應該重預習.先查字典與翻閱相關的書籍才是所謂的----事預則立


-- 作者: TARISA
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/06 09:02pm

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]心易先天數[/u]在 [i]2005/12/06 08:55pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
事預則立
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:em06: 說到心坎處


-- 作者: jennifer
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/06 09:50pm

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]心易先天數[/u]在 [i]2005/12/06 08:55pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
事預則立
[/quote]

請解釋"事預則立"  :em13:  謝謝!


-- 作者: jennifer
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/06 09:55pm

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]緣來自有方[/u]在 [i]2005/12/06 03:22pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
字測
近日不知為何愈來愈多要學的軟硬件,新程式或新課程,但我自知我一直番1在港根本沒有英語練習的機會,我已經多多留意外語台,多看英文書了~而我一直上那些training都全是外國人授課的,對我來說真的有點困難,我 ...
[/quote]

您設法改進英語的什麼方面? 技術術語或表達能力? technical terms or communication skills?


-- 作者: mms
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/06 10:06pm

事预则立
发音 shì yù zé lì
释义 指无论做什么事,事前有准备就会成功,没有准备就要失败。
出处 《礼记·中庸》:“凡事预则立,不预则废。”


-- 作者: jennifer
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/06 10:28pm

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]mms[/u]在 [i]2005/12/06 10:06pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
事预则立
发音 shì yù zé lì
释义 指无论做什么事,事前有准备就会成功,没有准备就要失败。
出ࣦ ...
[/quote]

謝謝mms的解釋!   :em05:


-- 作者: 緣來自有方
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/07 11:16am

謝謝各位!

另jennifer,我其實是想增強communication的能力,因為能完全溝通已是成功的關鍵!


-- 作者: jennifer
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/08 09:53pm

[這篇文章最後由jennifer在 2005/12/08 09:57am 第 1 次編輯]

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]緣來自有方[/u]在 [i]2005/12/07 11:16am[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
謝謝各位!
另jennifer,我其實是想增強communication的能力,因為能完全溝通已是成功的關鍵!
[/quote]

As for communication skills, it is all practice, practice & practice.  Perhaps you can check to see if there is a Toastemaster Club in Hong Kong.  It is an international organization aims to improve communication and presentation skills.  Membership is cheap.  They have monthly meetings where members take turns to make a speech and comment on each others.  Living in 外國 may not necessary help your communication skills.  It all depends on the individual.  I know some people from Hong Kong that only hang out with people from Hong Kong.  So they end up speaking Cantonese all the time...not much improvement in their English communication.  As 心易大 said, "事預則立", is very important.  Good luck!  Remember, practice makes perfect.  Treasure all the opportunities that you have to communicate in English and your English will definitely improve!  


-- 作者: rainbow
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/08 11:32pm

[equote]Living in 外國 may not necessary help your communication skills.  It all depends on the individual.  I know some people from Hong Kong that only hang out with people from Hong Kong.  So they end up speaking Cantonese all the time...not much improvement in their English communication.  [/equote]

Yes, I agree.  I have a cousin who came to the U.S. when she was 23 years old to study at a university for a degree.  She only hangs out with Chinese people. Originally she wanted to study Finance, then she switched to Accounting because of her poor English skills. However, these 2 subjects were too difficult for her to handle. She ended up getting a degree in Marketing (with poor grades) and she could not find a job.  

She is currently 34 years old, she just married a Chinese man who is a U.S. postal worker (Postman / Mailman) this year.  Till this day, her English communication skills are quite bad.  

I am not sure where she works.  She's probably working in Chinese restaurants using minimal English words to communicate with customers (as waitress to take food orders), or odd jobs in Chinatown.


-- 作者: 緣來自有方
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/09 00:19pm

[這篇文章最後由緣來自有方在 2005/12/09 00:23pm 第 1 次編輯]

rainbow~your cousin is quite unfortunate.how come a degree holder go to work as a waitress in a restaurant?she can apply for so many other jobs. i'm not afraid of this, i just want to improve my english, my cousins are living in Canada,my cousin sister will graduate in the coming year as a Doctor, my cousins brother is already a Doctor in St. john Hospital, all the cousins around my age are all Speaking english, they always welcome me to stay with them, they are all smart and clever, i just regret i haven't went to emigrate to Canada when my parents divorced, now i think i must catch my time to find a way improving my english as soon as possible, i have a clear mind what i want but just guess how can i accomplish my target.Thanks everyone, since i find that u all using english typing to reply  me ^^


-- 作者: jennifer
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/10 01:39am

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]緣來自有方[/u]在 [i]2005/12/09 00:19pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
rainbow~your cousin is quite unfortunate.how come a degree holder go to work as a waitress in a restaurant?she can apply for so many other jobs. i'm not afraid of this, i just want to improve ...
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St. John's Hospital...the one in Toronto?  There are a large Chinese population in Toronto.  If you do go, do you intend to take a course there or hang out with your cousins?  It seems that they have a busy schedule.


-- 作者: 緣來自有方
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/10 02:12am

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]jennifer[/u]在 [i]2005/12/09 01:39pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
St. John's Hospital...the one in Toronto?  There are a large Chinese population in Toronto.  If you do go, do you intend to take a course there or hang out with your cousins?  It seems that t ...
[/quote]

yes,but they have summer holiday during may to August, only my cousin brother need to work! he is working in St John at bloomfield(US), not in Canada, but he is the first chinese doctor in bloomfield St. John., i treat him as my brother since i dun have any brother/sister. He told me to goa long time ago, i asked him if he is free to care of me if i go, he said that is of course OK! i trust him since he has promise me! Now i just have to think about when i go there, i go for a course or just hang out with my cousins?what kind of course suit able for me?


-- 作者: jennifer
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/12 03:18am

Sounds like you have a very good cousin that treats you like his sister.  :)  If you are interested to take a course, he is the best person to tell you about the area/school...etc.  The reason why I suggested you to take a course is to meet more local people.  This will give you an opportunity to emerge in their culture and practice your communication skills.  


-- 作者: rainbow
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/12 04:39am

[這篇文章最後由rainbow在 2005/12/11 03:42pm 第 1 次編輯]

[quote]......in St John at bloomfield(US)...... [/quote]

Bloomfield, Michigan (密西根州 Bloomfield) or Bloomfield, New Jersey (新澤西州 Bloomfield)?

可以作一次短暫的停留 (3 個月到半年) 弄清是否喜歡在這裡居住, 讀書.  住在美國小鎮與香港大城市非常不同 -- 美國小鎮本地人, 文化,語言, 風俗習慣, 價值觀, etc 需要花時間習慣。有一段過渡時期 適應, 習慣.

If you only have Hong Kong passport, vistor's visa only allows you to stay in the U.S. for 180 days (6 months).

Student visa allows you to stay longer, provided that you are admitted into schools in the U.S.  

If you have Canadian passport, you are not required to get a visa to come to the U.S.

If you have Australian or British passport, you can stay in the U.S. for up 90 days (3 months) without a visa.  After 90 days, you need to get a visa.



-- 作者: 緣來自有方
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/12 10:47am

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]jennifer[/u]在 [i]2005/12/11 03:18pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
Sounds like you have a very good cousin that treats you like his sister.  :)  If you are interested to take a course, he is the best person to tell you about the area/school...etc.  The reason why ...
[/quote]


but he must be very busy since this year is the second year when he become a Doctor. i dun want to disturb him or give him any problem. For the course, i think i will ask my cousin sisters to help me!they are all very gentle and mild. But the amusing thing is that they are my little sister at least younger than me for 1 years to 6 years, they are taller than me for a wonder.the tallest sister is 5'11" tall...i'm afraid she can't get any chinese boy to marry with, but only the foreign people!


-- 作者: 緣來自有方
-- 發表時間: 2005/12/12 10:57am

rainbow: i dun know there are two place in US called bloomfield.And i can't find the word"bloomfield" at the world map!!><

i'm not sure which place is correct.but i know they all may move back to vancOuver next year. all my sisters may have summer holiday from May to August. They all are studying in the UBC.If i graduate my postgrad dip b4 June, i can catch up to meet them at that period. But i MUST finish and pass totally 6 subjects within 6 months. I'm really worry about it!><


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